ESF families with Multiple problems

Submitted by motherhen on Tue, 17/01/2012 - 3:22pm

Hi, i just wondered if anybody has heard anything about this contract yet, I have been keeping an eye out for jobs advertised but not seen anything, are most of the jobs going to local authorities?
Thanks

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Submitted by smurf on Wed, 18/01/2012 - 9:08am.

Attached is a link of the winners by CPA assuming they have all taken up contracts. A spec approach to the relevant ones might be useful but I dont really know the answer. I would guess that most would be absorbing it in with their existing staffing base. Local authority links are key for referrals, but again I think it will more likely be existing staff.

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/supplying-dwp/what-we-buy/welfare-to-work-services...

Submitted by Bob Cratchett on Wed, 18/01/2012 - 2:05pm.

Apply direct to the providers. Can't hurt.

Submitted by Tyn on Wed, 18/01/2012 - 3:47pm.

We are a T1 supplier and are looking at our first referrals this week. As for staff, we had existing staff in a 'holding pattern' awaiting this contract as is the case for the other T1s in our CPA, indeed some had TUPE rights under previous ESF contracts. If we are anything to go by, this isn't going to be up to speed for a couple more months yet, but at that point a few more vacancies may arise.

Submitted by Bob Cratchett on Mon, 23/01/2012 - 4:29pm.

Does anybody have a link to the payment schedule for ESF Complex Families? I know it's attachment, progress and outcome but what do you get for each? Thanks.

Submitted by Tyn on Mon, 23/01/2012 - 4:42pm.

The schedules will be different for each contract, because whilst a profile was provided in the spec, most primes chose to not take the attachment fee, instead taking that payment rolled up with the progression payment. Also of course, the prime will not be paying the full amount to its subs, creaming about 15% off for their shareholders. About 70% of the contract value is available up to the Progress payment and the remaining 30% on the sustained job outcomes.

Submitted by Stella on Thu, 09/02/2012 - 5:46pm.

Does anyone know who the providers are that will be carrying out the programme for Northamptonshire, Bedfordshire and Milton Keynes?

Submitted by Paul.Bivand on Thu, 09/02/2012 - 6:32pm.

@Stella - you've got three regions there.

Northamptonshire is East Midlands so that's Working Links as Prime.

Bedfordshire is Eastern, so that's Reed.

Milton Keynes is South East so that's Skills Training UK.

These are Primes, so they may have sub-contracted.

A part of the country with particularly daft boundaries.

Submitted by Stella on Thu, 09/02/2012 - 6:39pm.

@Paul. Thank you. Yes, very daft boundaries, hence my struggle to find an exact answer. You're information is a big help, at least I now have a starting point. Many thanks.

Submitted by Bingle on Thu, 09/02/2012 - 7:01pm.

Does anyone know who Reed are subcontracting to in Norfolk?